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Does this dance exist? / Beginner dances with chain, without star-L prog

by Maia McCormick via Callers

Wanted a beginners' dance with a chain but without a star-L progression. Jotted down this one. I find it quite likely that someone has written it before: [untitled], imp. A1: N b&s A2: long lines forward & back ladies chain B1: ladies alle. R 1x P swing B2: circle L 3/4 bal. ring and pass through So a) has this been written? And b) can folks recommend already-written dances that meet my criteria? Cheers, Maia

9 years, 9 months

Problem dancers / Crying Wolf

by Lindsay Morris via Callers

Chris Weiler's Positive Solutions <http://www.puttinonthedance.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Positive-Solutio…> on dealing with problem dancers, and the CDU Policy <http://www.puttinonthedance.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/09-12-16-CDU-pol…> are thoughtful and useful documents. We have a different problem here. One woman often complains to board members about men she sees as creepers or sexual predators. She reports their misbehavior on behalf of their victims. The victims don't initiate these reports.* Many others *don't* see these men as creepy or inappropriate. Recently one of the "victims" clarified that her discomfort with the man was a year ago and she'd long ago dealt with it to her satisfaction. The man in question had heard only rumors that some nameless woman was unhappy about some nameless thing he'd done. This woman also publicly asked that young women who feel harassed should talk to her about it. We feel that's the Board's job, not hers. It seems that this woman is fishing for - or even inventing - "naughty-dancer" problems. When a married man gets accused of being a sexual predator, his wife has to wonder if it's true. This adds to any marital tensions they may already have. So, while this woman is not actually punching anybody in the face, it seems to me that she's committing violence. How should we handle this? - I think we need a "No proxy complaints" policy - i.e., the victim has to speak up (and then our process will usually fix simple miscommunication issues). - We need to clearly identify board members, so genuine victims know who to talk to. But does anybody have other ideas about preventing one person's issues from poisoning the atmosphere of a mostly friendly dance? ____ * I know, victims often have a hard time stepping up and complaining, so advocacy may be a good thing. But that's a different discussion. In these situations, there's no victim; there's no predator; there's just an accusation with little to back it up.

9 years, 9 months

Differences in Terminology - Contra v Becket

by Jeremy Child via Callers

Hi Everyone In a normal (1s improper) contra, you start with your partner across from you and your neighbour next to you. Anyone outside the minor set is a new neighbour / shadow / something else. In a Becket formation, you start with your partner next to you. Who's opposite you - your neighbour or your opposite? If it's your opposite, who's your neighbour? Is it the person next to you who isn't your partner? (I have seen it used this way.) Jeremy Child Exeter, UK

9 years, 9 months

counterclockwise momentum?

by Lindsey Dono via Callers

Hi Callers, There are a number of dances that have significant clockwise momentum; I try to label such dances so I don't call them back to back. However, I'd like to identify a collection of dances with the *least* clockwise movement (beyond swinging in the other direction). Which moves are CCW? I realize that this depends somewhat on how the move is danced. Have you IDed any dances as particularly good to call after a very clockwise one? Thanks!Lindsey

9 years, 9 months

Text size problem

by Michael Fuerst via Callers

Two persons have lamented privately to me that my posts are reaching the group with almost unreadably small text.No where else I send email or post has reported this problem Which, if any of these lines better? 1. Garamond small 2. Garamond medium3. Garamond large 4 Modern small5 Modern Medium6 Modern wide Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217 239 5844

9 years, 9 months

Rollaway sans sashay?

by Maia McCormick via Callers

Recently there was some discussion of the difference between a "rollaway with a half-sashay" and a plain ol' rollaway. Jim Saxe presented the dance Roll Away <http://contradances.blogspot.com/2012/03/roll-away.html> as an example of a contra with a rollaway without a half-sashay. Can anyone else name/post choreography for any CONTRAS (or 4-face-4s, I suppose... not looking for squares at the moment, though) that include a rollaway *without* a half-sashay? Cheers, Maia

9 years, 9 months

Important - WHY WE ARE HERE

by Seth Seeger via Callers

Hello everyone, Seth and Chris here, the lists founders and (currently) silent members. The discussions from yesterday and today have generated a lot of traffic and a lot of emotions. So I'd like to take this opportunity to remind us all why we are here. Chris and I started this list to SUPPORT each other and other callers. Please remember that when writing and responding here. Everyone should be treated with kindness. When you write an email, please consider this before you press send: If you were face to face, would you say the same thing? Does what you are writing add to the SUPPORT of the community? And finally, remember that humor and sarcasm are not easily communicated through email. Please leave sarcasm and jokes out, as the other people reading your email may not know if you are being serious or not. Thank you, Seth & Chris

9 years, 9 months

Shadow swings and the Dance Deity

by Michael Fuerst via Callers

Concerning dances with shadow swings, Chris Page has noted, "I know Carol Ormand writes and calls them." Because of her advanced scientific training, Carol is undoubtedly certified to handle hazardous material. For most of the day and evening I've been praying to the Dance Deity about the issue of shadow swings, knowing, all levity aside, that a wrong decision could end me in jail for a week or so (like a certain Kim Davis from Kentucky). At about 11pm I received a vision from the Dance Deity. Visions are of course difficult to translate into words, but I'll do my best here. According to D.D., any caller attempting a shadow swing dance should (i) meditate for an hour (or as long as needed) to get the the Deity's permission, and, if granted, (ii) get Secret Service clearance and the appropriate CDSS permit. One these two conditions are satisfied, the caller should initially teach the dance with an alternative for the shadow swing. Then, during a second walk-through, the caller should casually and emphatically mention that dancers might want to instead swing with their shadow. Michael Fuerst 802 N Broadway Urbana IL 61801 217 239 5844

9 years, 9 months

shadow swings

by Dave Merrill via Callers

My only observation to add to the shadow swing melee is that while not completely closed to them, i'm cognizant of the several reasons they are a less than optimal choice. Given these drawbacks of the figure, i would not use a shadow swing in a situation with very long sets. If the choreography of the dance is so awesome i feel a need to use it, and the end effects aren't prohibitive, i'd consider running it in a situation with short sets (much as i'd use for a 1s active dance). Why? Because if anyone feels the need to escape their shadow, they can get to an end of the set and either jump out or rumble into another set sooner. I think this offers dancers the best chance to fix a potential issue without singling anyone out or creating a dynamic on the floor more awkward than the choice of a shadow swing dance (albeit an exceptional one!) already did.

9 years, 9 months

Fwd: Fw: Shadow Swing Disclaimers?

by Andrea Nettleton via Callers

> > Maia, > Did we give you what you needed? If so, could you let us know and put a stop to the thread? Callers are now more busy calling one another out for getting off topic or being inappropriate than generating new answers. > Summary of suggestions, as best I remember: > 1) don't call the dance > 2) call the dance with the disclaimer farther in advance than the teach. > 3) call the dance with a substitute choreography, not mentioning the possibility of a swing. > 4) call the dance and at that place in the dance say: with your shadow either swing or (substitute move) and end x-ly (probably traded places either facing across or with one person facing across ready to do the next move (if the substitute was an allemande 1.5)). > > While some advocated for disclaimers, many felt it is bad for the community to imply from the mic that people might be uncivil. Others objected that some might take the disclaimer as license to avoid dancers for any number of reasons, some being petty prejudices rather than a sense of real danger. Overall there were more voices against disclaimer and for offering an alternative movement should you feel this was the right dance for the moment. > > Correct me if I'm wrong. Could we leave this alone unless someone has a truly new idea for Maia? > > Thanks, > Andrea > > Sent from my iOnlypretendtomultitask > >>> On Sep 9, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Aahz Maruch via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2015, Michael Fuerst via Callers wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 1:53 PM, Luke Donforth <luke.donev(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Michael Fuerst via Callers <callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Asking about how to appropriately do dances with shadow swings seems >>>>> like asking how men can appropriately grope women during a dance. >>>> >>>> I again think your attempt to inject levity into a conversation have >>>> come across as crass and inappropriate. Asking about shadow swings >>>> on a list for calling is pertinent; joking about men groping women >>>> dancers isn't. >>> >>> Your assessment is inaccurate. This is not a matter where levity is >>> acceptable. Creating a situation which could force someone into close, >>> almost intimate proximity with a person perceived as emotionally or >>> physically threatening is inappropriate. A lesser problem is that one >>> can get a shadow who one considers personable, but very unpleasant >>> for swinging (for example, due to either height difference, or a body >>> position or weight distribution which unnecessarily strains one's own >>> body). >> >> Well, I share Luke's assessment. The phrasing you used to compare shadow >> swings and groping implies either levity or a disregard of the difference >> between groping and a shadow swing. Regardless of the seriousness with >> which you view "forcing" a shadow swing, it is clear that many other >> people disagree, and your comparison is not appropriate, especially given >> Maia's original request to AVOID any discussion of whether shadow swings >> are appropriate. >> -- >> Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6 http://rule6.info/ >> <*> <*> <*> >> Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Callers mailing list >> Callers(a)lists.sharedweight.net >> http://lists.sharedweight.net/listinfo.cgi/callers-sharedweight.net

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