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Re: [Callers] Callers Digest, Vol 96, Issue 11

by David Smukler

Hi Laurie, Here are a few stray thoughts about triplets. - Which ones to try first Ted's #24 is a great dance, but not necessarily the first one I'd try to introduce triplets to a group. Ted's #3 is probably the safest and easiest for a community dance. I've found Ted's #29 to be fairly "contra friendly." It starts with a partner bal & sw for all and has very satisfying "flow." Of the triplets I've composed, I'd recommend #5 as most likely to succeed (rather than #4). Of course, all such decisions depend on the crowd. - Where to find them Ted's 41 triplets have all been published. Between Ted's two books, Zesty Contras and Give-and-Take (all available from CDSS) you can find directions for any of them. I will say that I think they are brilliant, but not all of the same quality. Many are quite challenging, especially for groups that are not used to them. Lots of other triplets exist if you go hunting. I'm rather fond of my son Micah's Triplet #pi, which can be found at <http://www.math.uchicago.edu/~msmukler/dances.html>. Why use them? Triplets are a good way to introduce variety into an evening. They don't take very long, so if they are less than perfect you can move on. The whole set is easily visible and "process-able" to all the dancers. We six can work this out. They introduce some fun interaction. For example, I follow Ted's custom of asking all the dancers to introduce themselves and shake hands round their set. There's also the cheering (pretending we recognize which one is #29), which always gets smiles. Triplets can also be a great way to teach certain actions. For example, Linda Leslie's Corner Triplet (sometimes called David's Triplet #1.5) is a wonderful and easy dance for introducing contra corners. - How to introduce them Just do. Trust a good dance to "speak to" the dancers about why it is good. Anything unfamiliar requires a bit of a leap, but if we never take that leap our dances will feel more and more the same, and what fun is that? David On Aug 20, 2012, at 11:07 PM, callers-request(a)sharedweight.net wrote: > Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 15:28:14 -0700 (PDT) > From: Laur <lcpgr(a)yahoo.com> > To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Triplets > Message-ID: > <1345501694.2999.YahooMailClassic(a)web121704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > Thanks for starting the thread,? > Kalia.? I would like to start to include Triplets in one of our community series. ?And tips like these from Louise are helpful. ?I'll look at Ted's 24 later tonight. > I was thinking of Ted's #41 which I have heard referenced either here or on Trad-dance-caller. I also was interested in David's Triplet #4 by David Smukler; also Packing the Boxes... ?I believe David is on either this list or on Trad-Dance-Caller. ?If here, David, can you give me any tips? > Laurie PWest MI

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Re: [Callers] Hull's Victory - Proper Right & Left Throughs?

by John Sweeney

How do inexperienced dancers get on with Proper Right & Left Throughs? I have had lots of confusion when I have tried that sort of thing. The newer dancers are used to Becket or First Couples Improper and the man courtesy turning the lady. Many of the men, when they find they have crossed the set and met another man, don't know what to do. (The ladies are slightly better at it as many of them have danced the man's part.) Do the dancers at modern public contras know how to handle this sort of same gender move? Happy dancing, John John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent

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Re: [Callers] Hull's Victory

by Val & Tom Medve

At the organizer's request, I called Hull's Victory at the Rochester, Vermont contra evening on Thursday, August 16th -- to great music by The Turning Stile (Joanne Garton and organizer Aaron Marcus). Thanks, David, for bringing the dance's (and naval victory's) 200th anniversary to our attention! Val Val Medve Essex, Vermont valandtom(a)myfairpoint.net

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Re: [Callers] Hull's Victory

by David.Millstone＠VALLEY.NET

Good for you, Chris! With Crowfoot providing the music, I'm sure the crowd responded with enthusiasm. I read in this morning's paper that the USS Constitution was going to take a sail around Boston Harbor, ony the second time in more than 100 years that this would take place. A momentous day in many ways! Thanks for letting me know. I'd be interested to know what else you put on your program. David

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tempo

by Tom Hinds

Rich Sbardella said: Some songs "sound" fast at 120 and some songs sound slow at 128.? This sound sometimes confuses dancers.? I'd be curious to know if the perception of tempo is influenced by the busyness of the tune or how it's played. Does a tune sound faster if it's notey? Does a less notey tune sound slower? Tom

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Re: [Callers] appropriate tempos

by tavi merrill

This may be slightly off topic, since i know nothing about MWSD, and i don't have exact tempo figures to share, but an observation - i've noticed recently that one of the moves in contra dance that is particularly sensitive to tempo issues is the hey, particularly when followed by a move like long waves balance & ROM. (You might notice this in dances such as "Rant & Roar" by Russell Owen and "Groovemongers Contra" by Don Flaherty). For ROM wave balances to work well, the tempo must be such that they can complete the hey and form waves ready to balance on the down beat of the next phrase. Conversely, particularly in a dance where a hey is followed by a balance & swing, when a tempo is too slow, dancers may finish a hey with a couple extra beats to spare before the balance. When there are live musicians involved, it strikes me that, whatever the starting tempo, musicians can respond to the dancers (and if they don't notice, callers can make sure they do) - particularly noting whether people are repeatedly late or early for the next move after a hey - or if dancers arrive early to a progression figure or appear to be rushing, all signs that the tempo needs adjustment.

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Appropriate Tempos

by Dugan Murphy

Callers, What is your experience working with bands to establish an appropriate tempo? Do bands ever ask you what tempo you want? Do you ever request a particular tempo to fit a dance? Do you communicate tempo requirements numerically (beats per minute) or maybe by tapping your feet? When are slower tempos appropriate and when are faster ones appropriate? What do you consider to be the range in beats per minute that is appropriate for contra? Some preliminary research told me that a range of 112-120 beats per minute is appropriate. Do you agree? I've called with maybe 20-25 bands in my young calling career and only 2 have asked me for guidance or confirmation concerning the tempo of their music (both bands play primarily for non-contra audiences, I believe). I told both bands to use their judgment, which produced satisfactory results in all cases except one dance in which the band misunderstood my request for a sultry/flirty tune to mean that they should play at about half the tempo one would normally expect for contra, which proved terribly confusing for the dancers. The lesson I learned is that I ought to know more about the range of tempo that is expected for contra and what tempos are appropriate when so that I can provide that information to bands when asked. -- Dugan Murphy Cincinnati, Ohio http://caller.duganmurphy.com <http://www.linkedin.com/in/duganmurphy>

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Re: [Callers] Celebrating Caller Brad Foster, CDSS Executive Director Emeritus

by janet＠bertog.com

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Sharon Green" <sharongreen(a)post.harvard.edu> To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net> Subject: [Callers] Celebrating Caller Brad Foster, CDSS Executive Director Emeritus Date: Mon, Aug 6, 2012 9:18 pm Hiho, contra callers! On Sunday, August 26, at Pinewoods English Week, the CDSS Board and the English Dance Week community are going to hold a celebration of Brad Foster's 28 Years as Executive and Artistic Director of CDSS. It is called Bravo Brad. Because the number of folks allowed at Pinewoods is limited, only registered campers, staff members, Pinewoods crew, and a small number of invited guests can attend. However, there still are ways you can participate in Bravo Brad. You can write a note to Brad, sharing memories of the times you've spent together. You can send a photo showing Brad in action as Executive Director, traveling contra & ECD caller, musician, dancer, singer. You can put together a scrap book page, combining messages, photos, poems, stickers, sketches, musical compositions... The possibilities are endless. I've been collecting notes, photos, and scrapbook materials for a while now, and will continue to do so till the end of English Week, when we'll begin the process of creating the scrapbook. Between now and September 3rd, I'd love to get scrapbook contributions from you. Here's where to send your contributions: Snail Mail: Bravo Brad, c/o Sharon Green, 6103 Harwood Avenue, Oakland CA, 94618 E-mail: sharongreen(a)post.harvard.edu Thanks for your help! Sharon Green (occasionally lurking on this list) _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list Callers(a)sharedweight.net http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers

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Re: [Callers] mentorship

by David.Millstone＠valley.net

Ron wrote, "One of the biggest challenges is learning dances. A library of shared dances would be invaluable." I'll call folks' attention to a resource that's been mentioned here before, the detailed syllabi from the Ralph Page Dance Legacy Weekend: http://www.library.unh.edu/special/index.php/ralph-page-dance-legacy-weekend The whole collection contains hundreds of dances-- mostly contras, as well as squares, triplets, dances in odd formations, chestnuts, new compositions. Each dance is carefully notated, and there is frequently backgroun information to round out the interested caller's knowledge. Some dances are easier, suitable for mixed crowds, and some are more complex. (Occasionally, the syllabus editor, David Smukler, will add a cautionary note that clues in the reader that this particular dance may be more complicated than it appears.) All in all, this is a superb resource for callers both experienced and those newer to the mic. I think it's the best collection available on the web. > - I'd love a list of every dance everywhere, divided by region, with listings >of address, organizers, contact info, links to websites, and their policies toward >callers. (does this resource exist?) Don't think you'll find the "policies toward callers" but there are several excellent resources that do the rest: * http://www.contradancelinks.com/ * http://www.neffa.org/Top/Folk_Dancing/Contras/Dances/index.shtml * http://tedcrane.com/dancedb/ * http://www.thedancegypsy.com/ * http://www.contracorners.net/contra/links/dancemap.html Hope this helps. David Millstone

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Please Trim Your Posts

by Paul Wilde

Hey all, Just a gentle reminder per earlier (lengthy) discussions: please trim all unnecessary posts when replying to a message. We are busy folk and don't need the extra verbiage (which we've already seen at least once) to slog through. If it's previously posted but really necessary to include, just clip and include those important lines when replying. THANK YOU! Paul On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:41 AM, <JsphDeP(a)aol.com> wrote: > Hi Kalia, > Welcome. I am also new to Sharedweight and have > found it very helpful. > > Joe De Paolo > > > In a message dated 8/5/2012 12:00:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > callers-request(a)sharedweight.net writes: > > Send Callers mailing list submissions to > callers(a)sharedweight.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > callers-request(a)sharedweight.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > callers-owner(a)sharedweight.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Callers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Hello! (Kalia Kliban) > 2. Re: Hello! (rich sbardella) > 3. Re: Hello! (Mark Hillegonds) > 4. Re: Hello! (Greg McKenzie) > 5. Re: Hello! (Joyce Miller) > 6. Re: Hello! (Laur) > 7. Re: Hello! (barbara153(a)aol.com) > 8. Re: Hello! (Bill Baritompa) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 11:52:43 -0700 > From: Kalia Kliban <kalia(a)sbcglobal.net> > To: callers(a)sharedweight.net > Subject: [Callers] Hello! > Message-ID: <501D6F7B.30602(a)sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi all, > > I've just joined up and wanted to say hello. I'm a new contra caller > but longtime English caller from Sebastopol, CA, about an hour's drive > north of San Francisco. I saw a few familiar names as I was cruising > through some of the archives, but look forward to getting more familiar > with the cast of characters here as time goes on. > > Kalia Kliban > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 12:10:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: rich sbardella <richsbardella(a)snet.net> > To: kalia(a)sbcglobal.net, Caller's discussion list > <callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Hello! > Message-ID: > <1344107400.31875.YahooMailClassic(a)web180014.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > --- On Sat, 8/4/12, Kalia Kliban <kalia(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > From: Kalia Kliban <kalia(a)sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [Callers] Hello! > To: callers(a)sharedweight.net > Date: Saturday, August 4, 2012, 2:52 PM > > > Hi all, > > I've just joined up and wanted to say hello.? I'm a new contra caller but > longtime English caller from Sebastopol, CA, about an hour's drive north > of > San Francisco.? I saw a few familiar names as I was cruising through some > of the archives, but look forward to getting more familiar with the cast > of > characters here as time goes on. > > Kalia Kliban > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > Kalia, > Welcome from the right hand coast. > Rich Sbardella, CT > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 16:00:20 -0400 > From: "Mark Hillegonds" <mhillegonds(a)comcast.net> > To: "'Caller's discussion list'" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>, > <kalia(a)sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Hello! > Message-ID: <005301cd727b$c72420f0$556c62d0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Welcome also from the peninsular coasts (Michigan) > > Mark Hillegonds > > cell: 734-756-8441 > email: mhillegonds(a)comcast.net > blog: www.defriction.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: callers-bounces(a)sharedweight.net > [mailto:callers-bounces@sharedweight.net] On Behalf Of rich sbardella > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 3:10 PM > To: kalia(a)sbcglobal.net; Caller's discussion list > Subject: Re: [Callers] Hello! > > > > --- On Sat, 8/4/12, Kalia Kliban <kalia(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > From: Kalia Kliban <kalia(a)sbcglobal.net> > Subject: [Callers] Hello! > To: callers(a)sharedweight.net > Date: Saturday, August 4, 2012, 2:52 PM > > > Hi all, > > I've just joined up and wanted to say hello.? I'm a new contra caller but > longtime English caller from Sebastopol, CA, about an hour's drive north > of > San Francisco.? I saw a few familiar names as I was cruising through some > of > the archives, but look forward to getting more familiar with the cast of > characters here as time goes on. > > Kalia Kliban > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > Kalia, > Welcome from the right hand coast. > Rich Sbardella, CT > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 13:02:40 -0700 > From: Greg McKenzie <grekenzie(a)gmail.com> > To: kalia(a)sbcglobal.net, "Caller's discussion list" > <callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Hello! > Message-ID: > <CAFqkWLurbH+=GGKhOG5fLCEAhBpUhmfVRXAd+Zbiav58r-hZeA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Kalia, > > Welcome as well from the Santa Cruz mountains of California. Good to see > your name on this list. > > Greg McKenzie > > ************* > > On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Kalia Kliban <kalia(a)sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I've just joined up and wanted to say hello. I'm a new contra caller > but > > longtime English caller from Sebastopol, CA, about an hour's drive north > of > > San Francisco. I saw a few familiar names as I was cruising through > some > > of the archives, but look forward to getting more familiar with the cast > of > > characters here as time goes on. > > > > Kalia Kliban > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Callers mailing list > > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > > > http://www.sharedweight.net/**mailman/listinfo/callers< > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 14:06:17 -0700 > From: Joyce Miller <joyceling(a)sbcglobal.net> > To: kalia(a)sbcglobal.net, Caller's discussion list > <callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Hello! > Message-ID: <8C3EA2A3-35F0-40D3-9571-5531F867EA11(a)sbcglobal.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi Kalia-- > > So glad to hear you are calling contras now! I mostly lurk on this list > but I'm delighted you've joined us! > > Joyce Miller > Grass Valley, CA > > On Aug 4, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Kalia Kliban wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I've just joined up and wanted to say hello. I'm a new contra caller > but longtime English caller from Sebastopol, CA, about an hour's drive > north > of San Francisco. I saw a few familiar names as I was cruising through > some of the archives, but look forward to getting more familiar with the > cast > of characters here as time goes on. > > > > Kalia Kliban > > _______________________________________________ > > Callers mailing list > > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 14:15:14 -0700 (PDT) > From: Laur <lcpgr(a)yahoo.com> > To: Caller's discussion list <callers(a)sharedweight.net>, > kalia(a)sbcglobal.net > Subject: Re: [Callers] Hello! > Message-ID: > <1344114914.71326.YahooMailClassic(a)web121705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > "Weighing" in from Michigan's West Coast... > > Laurie Pietravalle > Greater Grand Rapids, MI > > > > > > > From: Kalia Kliban <kalia(a)sbcglobal.net> > > Subject: [Callers] Hello! > > To: callers(a)sharedweight.net > > Date: Saturday, August 4, 2012, 2:52 PM > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I've just joined up and wanted to say hello.? I'm a new > > contra caller but > > longtime English caller from Sebastopol, CA, about an hour's > > drive north of > > San Francisco.? I saw a few familiar names as I was > > cruising through some of > > the archives, but look forward to getting more familiar with > > the cast of > > characters here as time goes on. > > > > Kalia Kliban > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 17:16:06 -0400 (EDT) > From: barbara153(a)aol.com > To: callers(a)sharedweight.net > Subject: Re: [Callers] Hello! > Message-ID: <8CF409D7EA51800-167C-3D836(a)webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > Kalia > Welcome to the list. > Barbara G > Springfield, NJ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg McKenzie <grekenzie(a)gmail.com> > To: kalia <kalia(a)sbcglobal.net>; Caller's discussion list > <callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Sent: Sat, Aug 4, 2012 4:02 pm > Subject: Re: [Callers] Hello! > > > Kalia, > > Welcome as well from the Santa Cruz mountains of California. Good to see > your name on this list. > > Greg McKenzie > > ************* > > On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Kalia Kliban <kalia(a)sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I've just joined up and wanted to say hello. I'm a new contra caller > but > > longtime English caller from Sebastopol, CA, about an hour's drive north > of > > San Francisco. I saw a few familiar names as I was cruising through > some > > of the archives, but look forward to getting more familiar with the cast > of > > characters here as time goes on. > > > > Kalia Kliban > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Callers mailing list > > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > > > http://www.sharedweight.net/**mailman/listinfo/callers< > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers> > > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:04:32 +1200 > From: Bill Baritompa <staf186(a)ext.canterbury.ac.nz> > To: kalia(a)sbcglobal.net, Caller's discussion list > <callers(a)sharedweight.net> > Subject: Re: [Callers] Hello! > Message-ID: <501D9C70.5050407(a)ext.canterbury.ac.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Welcome from New Zealand. Cheers, Bill > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers > > > End of Callers Digest, Vol 96, Issue 2 > ************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > Callers mailing list > Callers(a)sharedweight.net > http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers >

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