On Jan 3, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Erik Hoffman via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> ...
> I'd look for other good 40-bar tunes like:
> • Three Thin Dimes
> • Three-way Hornpipe
> • The Snoring Mrs. Gobiel
> • the 5-part Fox Hunter's Jig
> ...
Those titles could be good leads, but beware that when a title is a associated with a 40-bar version of a tune, it may also be associated with versions of other lengths.
For example, "The Snoring Mrs. Gobiel" (a/k/a ("[La] Ronfleuse Gobiel") is indeed commonly played as a 40-bar tune, as in the rendition by La Bottine Souriante at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvLY38H9R0I
However, the Traditional Tune Archive's page on the tune
https://tunearch.org/wiki/Ronfleuse_Gobeil
shows both 32-bar and 40-bar versions, the essential difference being that the B part is played only once in the 32-bar version and twice in the 40-bar version. The 32-bar version is almost identical to the one in _The New England Fiddler's Repertoire_ (at least in my second edition). I presume the editors of NEFR chose a 32-bar version to fit standard-length contras. The annotations at
https://tunearch.org/wiki/Annotation:Ronfleuse_Gobeil
also mention a version lacking the C part recorded by Jos Bouchard under the title "Reel St-Siméon" and a slightly crooked version recorded by Isidore Soucy under the title "Gigue des vieux souliers" (Old Shoes Jig).
Unfortunately if a tune has been recorded in versions with different numbers of bars, the sample snippets at Amazon and other sites are often too short to reveal which version is being offered.
--Jim
Erik, I think you mean the Fox Hunter's Reel. The jig is a slip jig; the
reel is a 40-bar tune. Along those lines, Gravel Walks is typically played
as a 4-part, 40-bar tune (ABCDD) when it's played other than for contras so
could be added to your list of 40-bar tunes.
One issue with looking for sets with those tunes in them is that if the set
isn't intended for dancing, the remaining tunes in the set are not likely
to be 40 bars as well. Could be there are a few dance bands that have
recorded 40-bar sets that you'd find searching for the tunes, though.
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:35 PM Erik Hoffman via Contra Callers <
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> Here's a nice recording of Little Billy Wilson by Jane Rothfield. I don't
> know how long it is because I only heard the snippet:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Little-Billy-Wilsons/dp/B004CQJN8S
>
> I'd look for other good 40-bar tunes like:
>
> - Three Thin Dimes
> - Three-way Hornpipe
> - The Snoring Mrs. Gobiel
> - the 5-part Fox Hunter's Jig
>
> I know there are more, but that might be a start.
>
> ~Erik Hoffman
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Here's a nice recording of Little Billy Wilson by Jane Rothfield. I don't know how long it is because I only heard the snippet:
https://www.amazon.com/Little-Billy-Wilsons/dp/B004CQJN8S
I'd look for other good 40-bar tunes like:
* Three Thin Dimes
* Three-way Hornpipe
* The Snoring Mrs. Gobiel
* the 5-part Fox Hunter's Jig
I know there are more, but that might be a start.
~Erik Hoffman
Here's a 40-bar singing square from the 1950s. It's only 6 times through, but it's in five 8-bar phrases (two in the "A" part, three in the "B").
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Massachusetts, USA
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From: Amy Cann via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Friday, January 3, 2020 1:48 PM
To: John Sweeney <john(a)modernjive.com>
Cc: contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
Subject: [Callers] Re: Recordings of 40 Bar Tunes
I'm going to head off-list and talk to my friend Norb Spencer, accordionist extraordinaire, major tune-hound, and player of all three
likely-to-be-not-32 genres (Oldtime, Fr.C, and Scottish). Watch this space...
On 1/3/20, John Sweeney via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Hi Amy,
> You asked about the 40-bar dance.
>
> The dance I am currently working on is " Ladies Walk Around Their Contra "
> http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/FormationsDances.html#LadiesWalk
>
> I was at a dance on New Year's Eve where it was called and realised
> it was a new formation for me. It is a Becket dance for Trios
> (Lady-Man-Lady). It is Formation #102 at
> http://contrafusion.co.uk/Formations.html
>
> I don't know who wrote it. Does anyone know?
>
> A good 40-bar tune will also be useful for:
> "Major Hey" by Erik Hoffman
> http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=5030
> “Apple Pie Quadrille” by Ron Beeson
> http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=12522
> "Not So Solitary" by me (Nine dancers in a 3x3 grid doing lots of
> Heys)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Happy dancing,
> John
>
> John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802
> 940 574
> http://contrafusion.co.uk/KentCeilidhs.html for Live Music Ceilidhs
> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
> http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive DVDs
>
>
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I'm going to head off-list and talk to my friend Norb Spencer,
accordionist extraordinaire, major tune-hound, and player of all three
likely-to-be-not-32 genres (Oldtime, Fr.C, and Scottish). Watch this
space...
On 1/3/20, John Sweeney via Contra Callers
<contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Hi Amy,
> You asked about the 40-bar dance.
>
> The dance I am currently working on is " Ladies Walk Around Their Contra "
> http://contrafusion.co.uk/Dances/FormationsDances.html#LadiesWalk
>
> I was at a dance on New Year's Eve where it was called and realised it was
> a new formation for me. It is a Becket dance for Trios (Lady-Man-Lady). It
> is Formation #102 at http://contrafusion.co.uk/Formations.html
>
> I don't know who wrote it. Does anyone know?
>
> A good 40-bar tune will also be useful for:
> "Major Hey" by Erik Hoffman
> http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=5030
> “Apple Pie Quadrille” by Ron Beeson
> http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/thecallersbox/dance.php?id=12522
> "Not So Solitary" by me (Nine dancers in a 3x3 grid doing lots of Heys)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Happy dancing,
> John
>
> John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802
> 940 574
> http://contrafusion.co.uk/KentCeilidhs.html for Live Music Ceilidhs
> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
> http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive DVDs
>
>
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As far as Scottish goes, I sent John a recording of a set David Knight put
together for Foggy River Reel, which is done to 40-bar tunes. It's usually
done as 8-8-8-16 (ABABB or ABABC), though, which doesn't really fit what
he's looking for (16-16-16-16-16).
I would imagine there are others on this list who would know of other
recordings for Foggy River Reel or other 40-bar SCD reels.
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 10:38 AM Amy Cann via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Have you tried the Scottish repertoire/resources?
>
> On 1/3/20, John Sweeney via Contra Callers
> <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Despite having an extensive collection of music I have
> > nothing
> > suitable for a 40 bar contra dance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please can anyone recommend any good recordings of 40 bars
> > and
> > 7 to 11 times through? Preferably they should be downloadable
> > individually.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Happy dancing,
> >
> > John
>
--
David Casserly
(cell) 781 258-2761
he/him
Patch the Pipes is for an English dance of mine with fairly specific
choreography to fit the tune.. The tune structure is two 8-bar A phrases
followed by two 12-bar B phrases. I wouldn't think it would be a good
choice for a contra dance.
Brooke Friendly
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 6:50 AM Michael Barraclough via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Patch the Pipes (7 * 40) on Impropriety Vol 6 (A New Leaf). Individual
> track downloads from CDBaby.
>
> Michael Barraclough
>
>
> On 03/01/2020 13:25, John Sweeney via Contra Callers wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Despite having an extensive collection of music I have
> nothing suitable for a 40 bar contra dance.
>
>
>
> Please can anyone recommend any good recordings of 40 bars
> and 7 to 11 times through? Preferably they should be downloadable
> individually.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Happy dancing,
>
> John
>
>
>
> John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802
> 940 574
>
> http://contrafusion.co.uk/KentCeilidhs.html for Live Music
> Ceilidhs
>
> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
>
>
> http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive DVDs
>
>
>
>
>
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Have you tried the Scottish repertoire/resources?
On 1/3/20, John Sweeney via Contra Callers
<contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Despite having an extensive collection of music I have
> nothing
> suitable for a 40 bar contra dance.
>
>
>
> Please can anyone recommend any good recordings of 40 bars
> and
> 7 to 11 times through? Preferably they should be downloadable
> individually.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Happy dancing,
>
> John
>
>
>
> John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 & 07802
> 940 574
>
> http://contrafusion.co.uk/KentCeilidhs.html for Live Music Ceilidhs
>
>
> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
>
>
> http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive DVDs
>
>
>
>
>
>
Patch the Pipes (7 * 40) on Impropriety Vol 6 (A New Leaf). Individual
track downloads from CDBaby.
Michael Barraclough
On 03/01/2020 13:25, John Sweeney via Contra Callers wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Despite having an extensive collection of music I have
> nothing suitable for a 40 bar contra dance.
>
> Please can anyone recommend any good recordings of 40
> bars and 7 to 11 times through? Preferably they should be downloadable
> individually.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Happy dancing,
>
> John
>
> John Sweeney, Dancer, England john(a)modernjive.com 01233 625 362 &
> 07802 940 574
>
> http://contrafusion.co.uk/KentCeilidhs.html for Live Music Ceilidhs
>
> http://www.contrafusion.co.uk for Dancing in Kent
>
> http://www.modernjive.com for Modern Jive DVDs
>
>
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