I call in primarily a traditional dance community but am investigating
starting to call using larks and ravens. I am curious about what words you
use and how you teach larks and ravens positioning. Thanks.
Hello all,
I've been thinking about half figure eights, and variations on them. Is
anyone familiar (in ECD, contra, or other traditions), where instead of the
1s or 2s half figure eight, having the gents or ladies do the move from
improper formation?
As soon as you have something like the ladies do a half figure eight from
duple improper; they're either going to have to shift where they land, or
the gents are going to have to get out of the way. It seems to me (during
my insomnia, not with actual dancers in a house party) that you could have
the gents cast off and over to a ladies place. i.e.:
*Ladies half figure eight, passing left shoulder in the middle to take
neighbor gents' place*
*Meanwhile, gents cast over left shoulder to take partner's place*
Which takes
(head of hall)
W1 M1
m2 w2
to
(head of hall)
M1 W1
w2 m2
Which ends in the same place as everybody doing a half figure eight, but
without 4 people trying to go through the middle at the same time. I think
it can still happen in 8 beats of music, with nobody standing around.
Is that a sequence people have danced or used?
Here's a wrapping to put the whole thing in context.
Calliope's Cross
Improper contra by Luke Donforth
A1
Long lines forward and back
Ladies half figure eight, passing left shoulder in the middle to take
neighbor gents' place
Meanwhile, gents cast over left shoulder to take partner's place
A2
Neighbor Right Shoulder Gyre and Swing
B1
Circle Left 3/4
Partner Swing
B2
Promenade across set with partner, courtesy turn
Ladies chain to neighbor
The name, and idea, comes from my older daughter (4), who wanted a
"Calliope's Cross" dance for herself after hearing about "Tamlin's Cross"
for her sister. Calliope like riding figure 8s on her bicycle.
I've deliberately kept this simple, instead of trying to get a gents figure
8 while ladies cast in for symmetry. I'm not sure how I'd teach that from
the stage; and think I'd have to use a demo.
I look forward to hearing the experience of the group!
Thanks
--
Luke Donforth
Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>
The name of my local dance community, chosen >30 years ago, is Tallahassee Community Friends of Old-time Dance. Many dancers now prefer evenings made up entirely of contras, narrowly defined, but some still prefer our traditional mix of formations. When I advertise our dances on Facebook, I subtly call the events that I expect to be all-contras ‘contradances’, and the others ‘old-time dances’. I don’t know whether anyone notices. We aren’t the only such organization with ‘old-time’ in our name.
Richard Hopkins
850-544-7614
hopkinsrs(a)comcast.net
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I'm in Germany, and I'm speaking for the next few days at a Conference run by the European Callers and Teachers Association.
Several of my sessions are about Contras, and speaking to the Contra Coordinator as we drove to the hotel I realised we had very
different ideas about what a contra is. I say it is an American (or American-style) dance, longways duple or triple. He classes
three-couple dances (such as Ted's Triplets), four-couple dances and circles as contras. He even classes my dance "Sting in the
Tail" as a contra. This is for two three-couple sets side-by-side and involves siding into line, set and turn single. I would
regard this quite definitely as "Playford"-style, and I think Americans would categorise it as English. But what is a contra? I
know the hot-shots would say that it's longways duple improper or Becket with a partner swing and preferably a neighbor swing, but
is that your definition? What about an early American dance such as "The Young Widow" - is that a contra? Can a dance in waltz
time be a contra? I think of a contra as mainly danced to reels or jigs, though I know there are a few to slip-jigs. Within
reels I would include marches and American hornpipes, which are smooth, but not English hornpipes which I would dance to a
step-hop. And not Strathspeys. I would say contras are done to a walking step, apart from the swing which is often a buzz step.
But do you agree with me?
Answers fairly quickly please!
Colin Hume
Email colin(a)colinhume.com Web site http://colinhume.com
Also from ECTA's definition:
"Contra Dance is mainly danced in two long, facing lines of couples, the
longways. There are different setups relating to the position of the
partner in the formation (e. g. Proper, Improper and Becket) and relating
to the number of couples dancing together (Duple, Triple, Triplet). A
different formation is the Sicilian Circle. Facing couples create a ring in
which in each group one couple is dancing counter clockwise and the other
clockwise.
Contra Dances are mostly danced to reels and jigs, but also to hornpipes.
The music consists of the melodies A and B, which each contain 16 bats and
are repeated so that a melodic structure of AABB is created. The set of
figures is danced to this AA BB structure of 64 beats. There also are
deviant structures like AB BA.
The Prompter explains each dance and calls the figures to the music a
little ahead of time. Like this it is possible for both experienced and new
dancers to dance. Through the repetition of the set of figures the dancers
learn the dance and the Prompter can shorten his calls or reduce them bit
by bit. The set of figures is written so that after dancing through it once
a new group of dancers meet. This is called the progression. In formations
with a fixed group of couples the position within the formation changes.
"[sic]
Bob
Hi folks,
I ran this at a monthly dance, and it was well received; so I figured I'd
share it around. To my knowledge it's new. Please correct me if you know of
a prior.
The interesting/odd bit is the transition from B2 to A1, where the ladies
role comes out of a left hand star with old neighbors to start a hey by the
left shoulder in the middle with new neighbors. It flows well, but is
unexpected.
*Hubert Humphrey Deserves More Than Just a Song By Tom Lehrer*
by Luke Donforth
Improper, duple minor contra
A1
Ladies start full hey by the left
A2
Neighbor gyre and swing
B1
Circle Left 3/4
Partner Swing
B2
Ladies chain across
Left Hand Star 1x
As for the title, well, I was on a presidents and folk music kick. Writing
titles is harder than writing dances...
Enjoy.
--
Luke Donforth
Luke.Donforth(a)gmail.com <Luke.Donev(a)gmail.com>
good day!
thanks for providing this outlet for us!
does anyone have experience with hearing impaired calling?
has anyone used signing for dances?
or other solutions to make the dance accessible?
grateful for your thoughts
billy fischer
312 litchfield turnpike
bethany ct 06524
203-393-3464 land
203-314-0221 cell/text
www.billthedancecaller.com <http://www.billthedancecaller.com/>
Hi all,
Karen and I like to get some winter sunshine (temperature
averaging at least mid-sixties) with lots of dancing (ECD, contra, square,
etc.) on our USA vacations in January or February, taking in a dance
festival if we can.
Any recommendations as to the best place to go?
Thanks.
Happy dancing,
John
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Buffalo. NY. Pay lousey, perks great! We'll feed you, put you up, be
grateful.
Caller scheduled has health problems, I think I've called the last 6
dances...we need a different voice for a reunion of Hey Diddle Diddle.
Message me if you can help a girl out.
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