6 Aug
2025
6 Aug
'25
10:22 a.m.
+1 to Maia
On Wed, 6 Aug 2025 at 7:11 am, Maia McCormick via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Just my two cents, not an opinion that's
necessarily strong enough to sway
us one way or the other but figured I'd share:
I really don’t feel excited about feeding the giant capitalist dystopia
plagiarism machine. I don't see "improving the capability of LLMS" as an
obvious good. I think that LLMs are good for a ton of things, but the
current hype is overblown and dangerous and I'm just hoping the current
bubble pops before it does more damage.
I agree that if you exist on the Internet these days, it's pretty hard to
avoid having your content fed to LLMs; and I think the benefit of having
the listserv be public to nonmembers may very well outweigh the costs of
feeding the giant capitalist dystopia plagiarism machine. However, I will
be pretty grumpy if we decide that feeding the plagiarism machine is the
express reason WHY we are leaving the listserv public.
--
Maia McCormick (she/her)
917.279.8194
On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 5:22 AM Mo Waddington via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Some of us are UK based, so members of EFDSS not
CDSS
On 05/08/2025 22:29, Sivier, Jonathan E via Contra Callers wrote:
There are 2 different elements of a group that can be made private.
There is the archive of past messages and then there is the group itself.
I would suggest that even if the archives are made private, so that only
group members can access them, that the groups should still be listed in
the Groups.io directory. That would mean that people looking for dance
related groups could find them and apply to join. Of course, if the
intention is that only CDSS members can join the groups then I suppose they
shouldn't be listed in the directory and links to the groups could be
available in CDSS Commons where CDSS members can log in and then apply to
join one or more lists.
Jonathan
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*From:* Sivier, Jonathan E <jsivier(a)illinois.edu> <jsivier(a)illinois.edu>
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2025 3:42 PM
*To:* contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net
<contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
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*Subject:* Re: [Callers] Re: List archives
If you are a member of the group, and logged in, the numbers under the
months are links to the archive.
Jonathan
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*From:* Keith Elmo Eldridge via Contra Callers
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*Sent:* Tuesday, August 5, 2025 3:35 PM
*To:* 'barbara153' <barbara153(a)aol.com> <barbara153(a)aol.com>om>;
'Michael
Fuerst via Contra Callers' <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
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*Subject:* [Callers] Re: List archives
Barbara wrote:
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How would I access these lists if you change to
private?
I moved a number of genealogical Mailing Lists from RootsWeb to
Groups.io in 2020. The archives for them are not private and they at
listed by month at the bottom of the page for each Group. E.g. for my
Essex-UK Group go to:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://groups.io/g/Essex-UK__;!!DZ3fjg!9gV8o9q…
When the archives for a Group are private the message per month are
shown, but there are no links, just a number. E.g.
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://groups.io/g/Podger__;!!DZ3fjg!9gV8o9q6j…
Cheers
Elmo
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--Keith Elmo Eldridge
--Elmo(a)aphelia.co.uk
--Sheffield, England
--I am therefore I dance. I dance therefore I am.
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