On Thursday, August 7, 2025, 9:56 AM, Seth Seeger via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
Don makes a good point - it's only new posts that would be affected. One option is to see if we can leave the old archives up to preserve links.SethOn Aug 6, 2025, at 9:34 PM, Don Veino <sharedweight_net@veino.com> wrote:[many good prior posts trimmed out for brevity]This may be obvious to some and not others, but a decision to "go private" will really only affect new posts, as whatever has been public is already out in the wild and will remain so. As an example:Note this is another public web property and just a single example of what is also likely held in "dark" archives elsewhere.As another consideration, what we post and discuss here is by its primary nature a public thing, ultimately presented to a wide community at events typically open to anyone. The group of people on copy in the group is large and therefore expectations of privacy should be low to nil?As much as I distrust the motives of many organizations behind AI, I feel a robust search function like that currently available through Google, et al, is a valuable resource. Unless the groups.io search can replace that, I'm more inclined to keep the current public policy.-DonOn Mon, Aug 4, 2025, 10:56 AM Seth Seeger via Contra Callers <contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:_______________________________________________Dear list members,Since the beginning, the archives for this list have been public. This was an effort to make information easier to search, to find, to link to, and to share. However, the days of free information online have changed. AI bots are now scraping the web for data to train on and privacy is more of an issue.As we move to groups.io, Chris and I would like to make the archives private. The biggest reasons are member privacy and to protect us from AI training/scraping. This means that you’ll need a free account on the new site to view the archives.We feel this is a good change for our community. Since the only barrier to the archives would be subscribing, we think this is a reasonable trade off between privacy and accessibility.If you have concerns about this change, please reply! (Once we make the archives at groups.io private, we cannot make them public again later.)Thank you,Seth & Chris
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