New subject: [Callers] here it is - sorry

4 Apr 2016

On 4/4/2016 9:10 AM, Darwin Gregory via Callers wrote:
...

 While I am relatively new to contra, and just called my first dance 
 this weekend, The Baby Rose... I'll have never considered gypsy a term 
 related to a race of people, nor did I know it was applied today to a 
 group of people called Romas.

 However, my general position on terms that have both discriminatory 
 and non-discriminatory meanings is that the meaning needs to be 
 derived by context.

 Before reading the discussions here, I had only considered the meaning 
 of gypsy as related to wandering dancers... Not a particular ethnic 
 group.  Perhaps my view has been naive.

Ok, cool.
...

 While I am sensitive to cultural issues, until someone comes up with a 
 term that captures not only the physics of the move, but also the 
 flirtatious nature of it, I will probably grimace any time someone 
 uses a different term.  Orbit, no handed swing, whatever... Until 
 something emphasizes the flirtatious eye contact it will fall short in 
 my mind.  It is more than a figure, it is a figure with an attitude.  :)

Wait.  Why does the word "gypsy" imply flirtatious eye contact?

(I'm not trying to police what words you use or what you do when 
calling, but I don't understand your logic here, which seems to be:

  "gypsy in dance context harmlessly refers to dance gypsies, not ethnic 
Gypsies"
  "'gypsy' is the only satisfying term for the figure I've heard because

it implies flirtatious eye contact".

I'm kinda suspecting that the implication of flirtatious eye contact is 
because of ideas of ethnic gypsies, gypsy dance, etc, but maybe you have 
another reason and I'd like to hear it.

-- Alan

Re: [Callers] here it is - sorry