>Gretchen,
>I knew a ballet group that was meeting in a large warehouse room -
>they covered the walls with large grey cardboard egg flats - you may
>have seen them, they carry more eggs than the traditional cartons,
>though those can also be used. I think one of their members/friends
>had a chicken ranch....Not sure where you can get them, or how much
>they cost, but they do absorb sound and keep it from reflecting all
>over.
>Martha
OMG
This is what can happen when you improvise with sound deadening material:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire
Cardboard? Cardboard!? CARDBOARD!!!
Gretchen,
I knew a ballet group that was meeting in a large warehouse room -
they covered the walls with large grey cardboard egg flats - you may
have seen them, they carry more eggs than the traditional cartons,
though those can also be used. I think one of their members/friends
had a chicken ranch....Not sure where you can get them, or how much
they cost, but they do absorb sound and keep it from reflecting all
over.
Martha
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> Our dance group in Charlotte NC is considering a long-term lease on
> an unused gym. Terms are great, we have a strong lead on a
> temporary portable floor while we raise money for a better floor.
> Acoustics, however, are horrendous. It's a big concrete box. What
> are some relatively quick and cheap ways we can get the acoustics
> to an OK level while we do the fundraising to do the job right? We
> need to move in fast as we presently have no better alternatives
> for our weekly dance. We're thinking about hanging quilts and
> heavy curtains from ropes along the walls and maybe up in the high
> ceiling.
>
> Any ideas? Suggestions?
> Thanks.
>
> Gretchen Caldwell
> gretchendance(a)yahoo.com
> Charlotte NC
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> Gretchen--
>
> Heavy curtains will definitely help. You may want to see if you
> can put some hooks into the walls that you could then hang the
> curtains from. If you've danced at the Carrboro Century Center
> before and after they put in the curtains and sound panels, that's
> a great example of the difference. Also, the Grange (Greensboro)
> was much improved when they added the acoustic panels on the
> walls. Quilts will help some, but they tend not to be as absorbent
> as good heavy curtains.
>
> Jack
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>> Subject: [Callers] How can we improve acoustics in a gym?
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>> Our dance group in Charlotte NC is considering a long-term lease
>> on an unused gym. Terms are great, we have a strong lead on a
>> temporary portable floor while we raise money for a better floor.
>> Acoustics, however, are horrendous. It's a big concrete box.
>> What are some relatively quick and cheap ways we can get the
>> acoustics to an OK level while we do the fundraising to do the job
>> right? We need to move in fast as we presently have no better
>> alternatives for our weekly dance. We're thinking about hanging
>> quilts and heavy curtains from ropes along the walls and maybe up
>> in the high ceiling.
>>
>> Any ideas? Suggestions?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Gretchen Caldwell
>> gretchendance(a)yahoo.com
>> Charlotte NC
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> If you use curtains make sure they are quite heavy, and make sure
> the wall opposite the band is well covered. One thing we did at a
> very live hall once was put batting up across the ceiling. That
> absorbed lots of bounce. Tilting your speakers down a bit (and as
> high as you can get them) also helps. I would suggest that you
> also put this question out on the contrasf(a)yahoogroups.com (contra
> sound forum) yahoo group. They would have tons of suggestions.
> Rich
>
>>>
>>> Our dance group in Charlotte NC is considering a long-term lease
>>> on an unused
>> gym. Terms are great, we have a strong lead on a temporary
>> portable floor while
>> we raise money for a better floor. Acoustics, however, are
>> horrendous. It's a
>> big concrete box. What are some relatively quick and cheap ways we
>> can get the
>> acoustics to an OK level while we do the fundraising to do the job
>> right? We
>> need to move in fast as we presently have no better alternatives
>> for our weekly
>> dance. We're thinking about hanging quilts and heavy curtains from
>> ropes along
>> the walls and maybe up in the high ceiling.
>>>
>>> Any ideas? Suggestions?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Gretchen Caldwell
>>> gretchendance(a)yahoo.com
>>> Charlotte NC
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Greetings
On the 2nd wknd in Aug I am calling a dance in Gorham NH
It is also the 100th anniversary of the town historical society.
I would like to call a few dances from in this time period.
Family/barn dances would be a plus, but I do hope to call some contras as well. Formations and calls will be appreciated.
thanks in advance
Gale Wood
If you use curtains make sure they are quite heavy, and make sure the wall opposite the band is well covered. One thing we did at a very live hall once was put batting up across the ceiling. That absorbed lots of bounce. Tilting your speakers down a bit (and as high as you can get them) also helps. I would suggest that you also put this question out on the contrasf(a)yahoogroups.com (contra sound forum) yahoo group. They would have tons of suggestions.
Rich
> >
> >Our dance group in Charlotte NC is considering a long-term lease on an unused
> gym. Terms are great, we have a strong lead on a temporary portable floor while
> we raise money for a better floor. Acoustics, however, are horrendous. It's a
> big concrete box. What are some relatively quick and cheap ways we can get the
> acoustics to an OK level while we do the fundraising to do the job right? We
> need to move in fast as we presently have no better alternatives for our weekly
> dance. We're thinking about hanging quilts and heavy curtains from ropes along
> the walls and maybe up in the high ceiling.
> >
> >Any ideas? Suggestions?
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Gretchen Caldwell
> >gretchendance(a)yahoo.com
> >Charlotte NC
Gretchen--
Heavy curtains will definitely help. You may want to see if you can put some hooks into the walls that you could then hang the curtains from. If you've danced at the Carrboro Century Center before and after they put in the curtains and sound panels, that's a great example of the difference. Also, the Grange (Greensboro) was much improved when they added the acoustic panels on the walls. Quilts will help some, but they tend not to be as absorbent as good heavy curtains.
Jack
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>Sent: Jul 23, 2007 3:57 PM
>To: callers(a)sharedweight.net
>Subject: [Callers] How can we improve acoustics in a gym?
>
>Our dance group in Charlotte NC is considering a long-term lease on an unused gym. Terms are great, we have a strong lead on a temporary portable floor while we raise money for a better floor. Acoustics, however, are horrendous. It's a big concrete box. What are some relatively quick and cheap ways we can get the acoustics to an OK level while we do the fundraising to do the job right? We need to move in fast as we presently have no better alternatives for our weekly dance. We're thinking about hanging quilts and heavy curtains from ropes along the walls and maybe up in the high ceiling.
>
>Any ideas? Suggestions?
>Thanks.
>
>Gretchen Caldwell
>gretchendance(a)yahoo.com
>Charlotte NC
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--- Joy wrote:
B2 In a Ring, balance, spin R 1 place as in Rory O'More
--- end of quote ---
I think that wording there might better be "as in Petronella," rather than Rory
O'More. In Rory, you're starting in a wave, passing nose to nose in front of
partner and ending in a wave. In Petronella as in Generation Gap, you're
balancing in a ring and twirling to end one place CCW around in the circle.
David Millstone
Lebanon, NH
I am trying to recover a dance that was called last night by George Marshall
in Belfast, ME. I noted at the time that it was named "Generation Gap" and
that I enjoyed it, but I recall little else about it. I have done a google
search and found reference to a dance of that name written by Thankful
Cromartie, so that is probably it, but I can't find a transcription. Is
anyone familiar with this one? Thanks
Richard Green
I'm struggling with the same question - but I have to add that I've
been leaning toward book, because in spite of all the comments about
the ease of having stuff as a website, I have no idea how to set up a
website. A friend of mine just spent weeks trying to set up a website
and finally has one page where the links don't work very well and it
isn't centered. So I'm not excited about trying to put one together.
The other concern I suppose is that paper is archival - 200 years
from now someone can look at a book. Will a website still exist? Will
the technology have changed and old websites be superceded by new
formats? What about publishing as a PDF file, and sending interested
parties a printable copy? Or burning a CD with a PDF and giving that
to people? Or a Word or Excel file, set up so that cards could be
printed out?
Martha
Hi,
Tod Whittemore came east and did a dance evening last night in New Hampshire
and it was a great evening. He ended the evening with a great dance that am
trying to remember today. Below is what's left in my brain (more than I
expected). If you were at the dance or recognize the dance can you help me
get it right? Also if you know the name and author that would be great. Tod
did not give the name.
Thank you all.
Rickey Holt,
Fremont, NH
The remnants of the dance:
(duple improper)
A1 Star Left Below (8)
1s turn around (alone, in place) and
Star Right Above (8)
A2 Actives do-si-do below (to a wave across) (4)
Balance that wave (?) (4 - if there
was a balance here)
Allemande Right Neighbor (4)
Men (in the center) Allemande Left (1/2) to Partner
(4 - I remember that this was rushed; perhaps it was only for 2, but then
this math won't work)
B1 Partner Balance and Swing (8) (I thought it
was for the whole B1, but I think that there was a ladies chain over in
here)
Ladies Chain over (8)
B2 Hey over and back end by getting ready to form the next left hand
star below) (16)
I don't know if this would even put everyone where they need to be.
Thanks again.
Rickey
Re Rickey's dance:
Looks like one I have in my box that's called The Magpie and the Seal by
David Zinkin.
d.imp.
a1 RH Star with neighbors
LH Star with previous neighbors
a2 (return to original neighbors) dsd n 1+ to wave (women in ctr by left)
bal wave (4) N all R 1/2 way (2) men all L 1/2 way (2)
b1 P b&s
b2 Ladies ch
half hey (ladies start r. sh) look to next Ns for rh star.
a fun one to dance, and satisfying to call if there is a critical mass of
experienced/competent dancers. the lh star really confuses newbies, and the
a2 moves along.
chrissy
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> 1. Finish the Dance (Rickey)
> 2. Re: Finish the Dance (Chris Lahey)
>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:01:45 -0400
>From: "Rickey" <holt.e(a)comcast.net>
>Subject: [Callers] Finish the Dance
>Hi,
>
>Tod Whittemore came east and did a dance evening last night in New
>Hampshire
>and it was a great evening. He ended the evening with a great dance that
>am
>trying to remember today. Below is what's left in my brain (more than I
>expected). If you were at the dance or recognize the dance can you help me
>get it right? Also if you know the name and author that would be great.
>Tod
>did not give the name.
>
>Thank you all.
>
>Rickey Holt,
>
>Fremont, NH
>
>
>
>The remnants of the dance:
>
>(duple improper)
>
>A1 Star Left Below (8)
>
> 1s turn around (alone, in place) and
>
> Star Right Above (8)
>
>A2 Actives do-si-do below (to a wave across) (4)
>
> Balance that wave (?) (4 - if
>there
>was a balance here)
>
> Allemande Right Neighbor (4)
>
> Men (in the center) Allemande Left (1/2) to Partner
>(4 - I remember that this was rushed; perhaps it was only for 2, but then
>this math won't work)
>
>B1 Partner Balance and Swing (8) (I thought it
>was for the whole B1, but I think that there was a ladies chain over in
>here)
>
> Ladies Chain over (8)
>
>B2 Hey over and back end by getting ready to form the next left hand
>star below) (16)
>
>
>
>I don't know if this would even put everyone where they need to be.
>
>Thanks again.
>
>Rickey
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 11:13:07 -0400
>From: "Chris Lahey" <clahey(a)clahey.net>
>Subject: Re: [Callers] Finish the Dance
>To: "Caller's discussion list" <callers(a)sharedweight.net>
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>
>I don't recognize the dance at all, but it looks pretty cool and I've
>got comments below.
>
>On 6/30/07, Rickey <holt.e(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Tod Whittemore came east and did a dance evening last night in New
>Hampshire
> > and it was a great evening. He ended the evening with a great dance
>that am
> > trying to remember today. Below is what's left in my brain (more than I
> > expected). If you were at the dance or recognize the dance can you help
>me
> > get it right? Also if you know the name and author that would be great.
>Tod
> > did not give the name.
> >
> > Thank you all.
> >
> > Rickey Holt,
> >
> > Fremont, NH
> >
> >
> >
> > The remnants of the dance:
> >
> > (duple improper)
> >
> > A1 Star Left Below (8)
> >
> > 1s turn around (alone, in place) and
> >
> > Star Right Above (8)
> >
> > A2 Actives do-si-do below (to a wave across) (4)
>
>Is this (8)?
>
> > Balance that wave (?) (4 - if
>there
> > was a balance here)
> >
> > Allemande Right Neighbor (4)
> >
> > Men (in the center) Allemande Left (1/2) to Partner
> > (4 - I remember that this was rushed; perhaps it was only for 2, but
>then
> > this math won't work)
>
>And the do-si-do time might explain why you were rushed here?
>
>This is the first significant center crossing. Men have switched sides.
>
> > B1 Partner Balance and Swing (8) (I thought
>it
> > was for the whole B1, but I think that there was a ladies chain over in
> > here)
>
>Let's just assume this was 16.
>
> > Ladies Chain over (8)
>
>Here women switch sides. At this point, everyone is on the opposite
>side of the set from their initial position.
>
> > B2 Hey over and back end by getting ready to form the next left
>hand
> > star below) (16)
>
>And we end on the wrong side of the set 8 beats late. If we replace
>this with a half hey, we end on the right side of the set right on
>time. The thing I'm most unsure about is how well the half hey would
>lead into the left hand star. In my head it seems like it would lead
>into the right hand star better. However, that makes it left hand
>star into a do-si-do, and that's also not quite as smooth. Maybe I'm
>wrong about the smoothness. I'd have to dance it to be sure. Can
>anyone else comment on this?
>
>So, obviously, I don't know if this was the original dance or what the
>name or author of it was. I'd love to find out.
>
>
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