Hey all,
I have also heard of the Irish Set Dances referred to
as quadrilles. And yes, they are generally not called or
cued, except perhaps in situations where people are just learning
a dance that is new to the group. And the Irish sets/quadrilles are
generally constructed of 5 or 6 figures w/ a chorus that is repeated
between figures.
This list rocks,
Paul
In “Balance & Swing” it is given as “Sheehan’s Reel” and attributed to Roger Whynot, named after the Irish tune the fiddler happened to being playing when Roger called it in Belmont in 1973.
Happy dancing,
John
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Subject: [Callers] Re: square dances for teens
Shehan's Reel is a great dance for any age group. You need know nothing about heads and sides nor corners
A1 Women to centre (curtsey?) and back; men ditto (bow)
A2 Women star Right; women star Left
B1 Women pass current partner to, do si do and swing next man
B2 Promenade with this person and face in to start again
I usually put it with a break of " Circle eight left and right; All to the centre and back, do that again; dosido and swing current partner and promenade"
With the right group, the last 8 bars of the figure can be "promenade to another square!" and then start again with the break. It doesn''t matter if there's more or less couples in the new "Square"
It's a very forgiving dance!
Have fun
I would add that I've danced an Italian folk dance called Quadrille
d'Aviano.
In that case, we learned it in private practices and performed it without
prompting during public events with other Italian folk dances.
Not sure how it may be related to other European folk dances, but I don't
imagine it's unique.
--Jerome
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On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:55 PM Tony Parkes via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Here’s my take on it, from the glossary of my forthcoming book _*Square
> Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century*_:
>
>
>
> Quadrille (1) A formal square dance in five or six figures,
> introduced in the early 19th century; the original figures were selected
> from the cotillion (definition 1), although additional figures were written
> later. (2) In the Northeast, a term used until the mid-20th century for a
> set of (usually three) squares done with the same partner. (3) A term used
> by modern square dance callers for a square phrased and prompted in New
> England style. (4) In some areas, a fiddle tune in 6/8 meter.
>
>
>
> Tony Parkes
>
> Billerica, Massachusetts, USA
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Rich Sbardella via Contra Callers <
> contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 21, 2020 12:41 PM
> *To:* Amy Cann <acann(a)putneyschool.org>
> *Cc:* Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
> *Subject:* [Callers] Re: Totally open question: what's a "quadrille" ?
>
>
>
> Amy,
>
>
>
> My interpretation is that a quadrille is a square prompted in the New
> England tradition.
>
>
>
> In the modern western tradition few callers use this method, but I was
> taught by New England caller Dick Leggier who composed many promoted
> 'quadrille" figures to use in the MWSD environment. This is still my
> method of calling squares in the club scene.
>
>
>
> I am not sure why I understand it that way. Word of mouth is a
> contributor, but also older publications like Sets in Order often referred
> to many of these simple 64 step dances as quadrilles.
>
>
>
> Here's one Jerry Helt called by from Tony.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9d46BSqRLI
>
>
>
> Rich
>
> Rich
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:26 PM Amy Cann via Contra Callers <
> contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
> What do you think of as a quadrille, tune and/or dance?
>
> I'm very curious to hear as many different answers as there are
> ages/locations/opinions on here. :)
>
> (Tell you why *after* we have a nice long thread. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Amy
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Here’s my take on it, from the glossary of my forthcoming book _Square Dance Calling: An Old Art for a New Century_:
Quadrille (1) A formal square dance in five or six figures, introduced in the early 19th century; the original figures were selected from the cotillion (definition 1), although additional figures were written later. (2) In the Northeast, a term used until the mid-20th century for a set of (usually three) squares done with the same partner. (3) A term used by modern square dance callers for a square phrased and prompted in New England style. (4) In some areas, a fiddle tune in 6/8 meter.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Massachusetts, USA
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Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 12:41 PM
To: Amy Cann <acann(a)putneyschool.org>
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Subject: [Callers] Re: Totally open question: what's a "quadrille" ?
Amy,
My interpretation is that a quadrille is a square prompted in the New England tradition.
In the modern western tradition few callers use this method, but I was taught by New England caller Dick Leggier who composed many promoted 'quadrille" figures to use in the MWSD environment. This is still my method of calling squares in the club scene.
I am not sure why I understand it that way. Word of mouth is a contributor, but also older publications like Sets in Order often referred to many of these simple 64 step dances as quadrilles.
Here's one Jerry Helt called by from Tony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9d46BSqRLI
Rich
Rich
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:26 PM Amy Cann via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net<mailto:contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote:
What do you think of as a quadrille, tune and/or dance?
I'm very curious to hear as many different answers as there are
ages/locations/opinions on here. :)
(Tell you why *after* we have a nice long thread. :)
Cheers,
Amy
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Amy,
My interpretation is that a quadrille is a square prompted in the New
England tradition.
In the modern western tradition few callers use this method, but I was
taught by New England caller Dick Leggier who composed many promoted
'quadrille" figures to use in the MWSD environment. This is still my
method of calling squares in the club scene.
I am not sure why I understand it that way. Word of mouth is a
contributor, but also older publications like Sets in Order often referred
to many of these simple 64 step dances as quadrilles.
Here's one Jerry Helt called by from Tony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9d46BSqRLI
Rich
Rich
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 12:26 PM Amy Cann via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> What do you think of as a quadrille, tune and/or dance?
>
> I'm very curious to hear as many different answers as there are
> ages/locations/opinions on here. :)
>
> (Tell you why *after* we have a nice long thread. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Amy
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What do you think of as a quadrille, tune and/or dance?
I'm very curious to hear as many different answers as there are
ages/locations/opinions on here. :)
(Tell you why *after* we have a nice long thread. :)
Cheers,
Amy
Martha Wild wrote:
> I like the visiting square Birdie in the Cage... Crows are fun because people can make cawing noises...
Some years ago I was hired to call a one-nighter at the Manomet Bird Observatory (www.manomet.org). I was walking the group through Bird in the Cage; when I got to the namesake part of the figure, I said, as I usually do, "Some people like to make bird noises." I was rewarded with lifelike calls of a dozen different species.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Massachusetts, USA
I like the visiting square Birdie in the Cage. It’s also the sort of forgiving dance where if there’s a five couple set you just do it a fifth time to let the last couple have fun and other sets can keep going. Teens can get into showing off in the center with whatever moves they like. I usually don’t call “ladies” or “gents” - I tell people to decide which person in the couple is the bird, and which is the crow, and then I call it for birdies and crows. That’s great when people aren’t in classic pairings. Crows are fun because people can make cawing noises. And generally the break figure is birdies or crows star right and left, do-si-do partner, swing, promenade.
Texas Star is fun and really relatively easy to teach and call. Think you can find that online.
Ninepin Quadrille, which has galloping (sashaying) past the central ninepin figure, is a good one for teens (Colonials Quadrille is also good for that reason, galloping).
Grapevine Twist is also one that I’ve called a lot at Family Dances - it’s another visiting square (or pentagon if you have to!) I think you can find version online.
There’s a Dip and Dive “square” for five couples that I like, too. I’m not sure of it’s origins or real title but it goes like this:
Number the couples one-five in the circle. Number one couple then goes in the center and the others make a square around them.
Honor etc. All couples swing. Number 1 couple ends swing facing another couple. Along that line of three couples, dip and dive all the way over and back - middles always dip, ends always arch, so when they turn around, they make an arch…(or middles always arch - choose one)
Number one gets back and faces 90 degrees to a couple they haven’t dipped with yet. That line of three couples dip and dive.
1s swing in middle while the others form a circle and go forward and back towards them, then “into the middle and make them stop” - basically they go forward to the center until the others have to stop swinging (sort of mush into them)
Couple one joins the circle (order doesn’t matter, people just remember their original numbers), all circle left, swing partner, #2 couple move into the center, form a square around and it starts again. You can of course vary this however you like.
When I was at Farm & Wilderness in the 1960s, we had several favorite squares - though we typically didn't work up to them until mid-summer, and I wouldn't use most of them at a one-nighter: (singing) Alabama Jubilee, Just Because, My Little Girl, (patter) Swing Like Thunder aka The Basket, Texas Star, Grapevine Twist.
One F&W favorite that I do use at one-nighters is the full version of Duck for the Oyster. It takes a bit of teaching, so I use it in the middle of the evening, after I've gained the group's confidence. Unlike many squares, it's totally gender-free. Active couple lead right and circle four halfway around, then "Duck for the oyster": Active couple ducks under, then changes their mind. "Dig for the clam": Hosting couple does the same. "Duck through the hole in the old tin can": Active couple ducks under, rolls back to back, raises their joined hands, pulls the hosting couple under, then the hosting couple unwinds. Hosting couple should keep their joined hands in front of their faces while being pulled through, rather than unwinding too soon. Simpler version (if lots of kids, therefore big height differences): Active couple ducks under, drops partner's hand while keeping neighbor's hand, goes around the outside, forcing hosting couple to turn under own arms, and re-forms the circle. In either version, end with active couple ducking through and going to next couple.
My all-time favorite ONS square, good for almost any group, is Kitchen Lancers (a rough-and-ready version of the fifth figure of the Lancers Quadrille):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC1zlybRZzs
The main figure begins at 0:35. Note that the figure begins with the active couple promenading, so avoid ending any breaks with a promenade.
The dance is gender-free except for the single file bit, where I often call "Right hand people go round," then "Left hand people go."
At 1:08, with most ONS groups, instead of "Active couple through the middle, others follow, separate to lines, forward & back, swing partner to place," I usually call "Face your partner, back away, forward again and swing partner to place - all forward & back twice." The video is from Dare To Be Square 2011, where all the dancers were experienced, so I called a version closer to the original ballroom Lancers.
Tony Parkes
Billerica, Massachusetts, USA
From: Charles Abell via Contra Callers <contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 9:12 AM
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Subject: [Callers] Re: square dances for teens
Hey all, What are your favorite square dances for older teenagers in a one-night-stand setting? These could be Southern, New England, or other. Looking for a few new options...
Less interested in non-squares (circles, mixers, etc.), but if you have something you really like in one of those categories, feel free to share it.
Thanks!
I often use Shehans reel when I have a different number of couples. If I
have ten, two five couple sets, if only six, one six couple set. It is a
great flexible dance. It fits well into just about any 32 bar singing
square as well. It has become a go-to dance for me.
Rich Sbardella
Stafford, CT
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 11:06 AM barrie bullimore via Contra Callers <
contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> Shehan's Reel is a great dance for any age group. You need know nothing
> about heads and sides nor corners
>
> A1 Women to centre (curtsey?) and back; men ditto (bow)
> A2 Women star Right; women star Left
> B1 Women pass current partner to, do si do and swing next man
> B2 Promenade with this person and face in to start again
>
> I usually put it with a break of " Circle eight left and right; All to the
> centre and back, do that again; dosido and swing current partner and
> promenade"
>
> With the right group, the last 8 bars of the figure can be "promenade to
> another square!" and then start again with the break. It doesn''t matter
> if there's more or less couples in the new "Square"
>
> It's a very forgiving dance!
> Have fun
>
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:12 PM Charles Abell via Contra Callers <
> contracallers(a)lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey all, What are your favorite square dances for older teenagers in a
>> one-night-stand setting? These could be Southern, New England, or other.
>> Looking for a few new options...
>>
>> Less interested in non-squares (circles, mixers, etc.), but if you have
>> something you really like in one of those categories, feel free to share it.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
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